What does AI have to say about a modern AR180?

I asked Grok 2 AI a simple question,

What would a modern AR180 rifle look like?

Here is what it had to say.

A modern AR180 rifle, while staying true to its original design ethos, would likely incorporate several contemporary features and materials to meet current standards of functionality, reliability, and user preference. Here’s what you might expect:

– **Material Use**: The original AR-18/AR-180 utilized stamped steel for cost-effective mass production. A modern variant might retain this for economic reasons, but could also feature more durable materials or combinations like aluminum alloy for the receiver, possibly even polymer for some parts to reduce weight, similar to what Armalite did with the AR-180B.

– **Design and Ergonomics**:
  – **Upper Receiver**: The upper could still use the distinctive AR-18 profile but with added Picatinny rails for modularity, allowing users to attach various optics and accessories easily. There might be options for side charging handles or even ambidextrous charging, enhancing user flexibility.
  – **Lower Receiver**: While traditionally stamped steel, modern designs might opt for a more durable or lighter material. The controls would likely remain similar to AR-15 patterns for familiarity, including an ambidextrous safety/selector switch.

– **Operating System**: The AR-18’s short-stroke piston system, which was ahead of its time, would be retained for its reliability and cleanliness compared to direct impingement systems. This system would be refined for better performance, possibly with adjustable gas settings for suppressed use or different ammunition types.

– **Barrel**: Modern AR180s would likely feature cold hammer-forged or button-rifled barrels for longevity and accuracy, with options for different lengths and twist rates catering to a variety of uses from close-quarters to long-range engagements.

– **Stock and Accessories**:
  – **Stock**: While the original had a side-folding stock, modern versions might offer various stock options, including fixed, folding, or adjustable stocks compatible with AR-15 stocks for aftermarket support.
  – **Grips and Forearms**: The grip and forearm might be updated to ergonomic polymer versions or include M-LOK or KeyMod slots for attaching lights, laser sights, or other tactical accessories.

– **Magazine Compatibility**: Given the original AR-180’s use of proprietary magazines, a modern design would probably adapt to use the widely available STANAG magazines, enhancing its appeal by allowing for greater aftermarket support and magazine availability.

– **Sights**: Modern iterations would likely include options for both traditional iron sights reminiscent of the original design and rail systems for mounting advanced optics or holographic sights.

– **Suppressor Compatibility**: With the trend towards quieter firearms, the design might include a barrel threaded for suppressors or built-in features that improve performance with suppressors, like an adjustable gas block.

– **Trigger**: There might be an emphasis on a crisp, clean trigger pull, possibly with aftermarket options for trigger upgrades, similar to those available for AR-15s.

– **Color and Finish**: While black was standard, modern AR180s could come in various Cerakote finishes for durability and personalization.

– **Legal and Market Considerations**: In regions like Canada, where the AR-180 has seen a resurgence due to its non-restricted status, modern variants would be designed with legal considerations in mind, ensuring they meet local firearm regulations while maximizing functionality.

In essence, a modern AR180 would blend the simplicity, reliability, and unique design elements of the original with the modularity, customization, and performance enhancements that contemporary shooters demand.

It used 15 sources from the internet to come to these conclusions, including a few articles from this site.

I followed up by having it make me a picture of said rifle.

I would call that part a fail.

What are your thoughts on what Grok had to say about what a modern AR180 should look like?

Drop your comments below.

Reader Pics: Interesting Sterling AR180

Reader Ken shot me an email the other day and asked some questions about his newly acquired Sterling AR180. Turns out, I had more questions for him than he had for me, and more questions remain unanswered.

His question was simple enough, “I’m trying to find info on my Sterling AR180, would you by chance know anything about this serial No. A101XX?”

If you know much about the AR18/180 platform that should raise some questions, 180 serial numbers don’t have an “A” prefix, they have an “S”.

AR18’s start with an “A”.

I asked for some pictures.

Turns out to look like a legit, unfired, Sterling AR180 Semi Auto, but the serial starts with an “A”. They even used an AR18 hammer.

Here are some pics. Let me know what you think.

More AR180B Prototype Parts Found in the Wild

I picked up what was sold as an AR180 trunion but I could tell from the pictures that it wasn’t exactly that.

AR180 trunions are not flat on the side. They are forged into a rough shape that leaves the sides with a relief.

Photo courtesy of GunLab.net

This newly discovered trunion is built like the ones used in the AR180B.

What made the AR180B trunion unique was the fact that they turned down a regular AR15 barrel extension and pressed it into the trunion shown above. This was obviously a cost savings measure.

What is so cool about the newly found trunion is it proves that they didn’t start off with that in mind. They were going to make them one piece.

The final piece of evidence that shows this was not built for the AR180 but instead the AR180B is that it will not head space with an original barrel but will with an AR180B barrel.

It’s too bad that this wasn’t used in the regular production AR180B. It certainly would be more durable when barrels needed to be swapped out.

Surplus AR180B Parts at AR180Parts.com

Just a quick heads up that I’ve got some surplus 180B parts in stock and ready to go.

Biggest and hardest to find parts are complete bolt carrier groups. I’ve been able to put together a few of these and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to source all these parts again. By the way these can be machined to work in an original AR180 if needed. I don’t provide the service but any competent machinist or gunsmith can help you out.

Another item that has been asked about a lot are original extended length hammer and trigger pins. These are new old stock Armalite production, as are all these parts.

Take a look around and see if there is anything you might need to finish a build or to have spares.

Heading to SAR West

I’m getting a couple table and setting up in the SAR building this year. I’ll be there Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

I’ll have lots of stuff to show and to sell so come find me if you happen to be there this year.