Bolt Carrier Group Differences

I was first prompted to look at the differences in bolt carrier groups between my guns when I started my Shorty Project. With the purchase of my Vulcan V18 I now had 3 versions of these bolt carrier groups and was able to examine them closely.  My hope is that these will be of use in the future when someone finds a BCG and needs to identify what gun it originally came from.

The three BCG’s are, in order from top to bottom,  Sterling AR-180, Armalite AR-180B, and Vulcan V18.

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The first thing that jumps out is that the Sterling BCG features a chrome bolt and cam pin. The others are parkerized. All three carriers are parkerized as well but the Sterling is a different shade with a slight green tint. The Sterling and Vulcan carriers have a cut out on the right rear that is used to open the dust cover. The Vulcan does not have a dust cover so we can only guess as to why it was put there. The Sterling carrier is machined for the locating lug on the charging handle. The 180B is a simple hole, and as mentioned in an earlier post, the Vulcan has a slot and a hole.

180 BCG-2

The bottoms are very similar but you can just make out the differences near the firing pin on the Vulcan.

180 BCG-3

The left side of the Sterling has a radius cut around the guide rod hole where the other two no not. This leads to a divot being left in this area after the machining of the cam pin hole is finished. You will also not that the guide pin of the Vulcan is solid and the others are hollow.

180 BCG-4

Next I discovered why I was unable to get the Vulcan’s last round bolt hold open to work. There is a angled slot that is machined into all the 180 carriers but not the Vulcan. We must remember that the Vulcan originally used a modified AR-15 lower and they needed it to work with that bolt hold open. My original plan was to copy the 180B hold open but that will only work if I cut this slot. I will first try to re-engineer a different hold open and see if I can make that work.

The remaining pictures are showing the BCG’s in the order, Vulcan, 180B, Sterling. Top to bottom and left to right.

180 BCG-5

The tops are very similar but you will notice the Vulcan carrier shown has wider flats and a slot cut into the rear face.

180 BCG-6

 

Here you can clearly see the biggest difference in that the Vulcan carrier has had a large slot machined into the rear face. This is because the hammer was located further forward on the modified AR-15 lower and they attempted to compensate for that. It did not work too well on this particular gun. The Sterling carrier on the right slows the radius around the left guide rod hole that is not present on the others. You can also make out that the firing pin hole is chamfered and the area around the guide rod holes has been relief cut. . The chamfer was left out on the 180B and caused some problems with the hammer peaning the edges of the hole and was restricting the movement of the firing pin. I modified this area on mine so that would not happen again and this is something you should inspect on your 180B if you own one.

I hope this can be used for reference and be of some use down the road. Feel free to comment if you see things that I missed or have any other questions.

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GunLab Visits the Old Pueblo and AR180S.Com gets Blog of the Month

I got a call yesterday that Chuck from GunLab would be traveling through Tucson and he wanted to stop by and meet.

We chatted for quite a while and I got to do a little show and tell so he cold take some pictures for the AR-180 section of his site.

He was passing through on a super secret gun buying mission the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss. But let me just say that his mission was a success and I got to fondle his new acquisition. I’m pretty sure I had a dream about shooting it last night. I hope that becomes a reality someday.

I had a blast talking guns last night and he and his wife are some of the nicest people I have ever met. It was a true pleasure to have them at my home. I also have an open invitation to visit the Lab and I will be heading up there soon.

Chuck also informed me that i received the honor of Blog of the Month at The Firearm Blog

I was shocked that Nathaniel had even found my little ol’ blog but could not be prouder.

Make sure to check out all the articles he has over there, I visit it often and I am always finding something interesting. It is a great site.

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Subscriber Pictures #1

Subscriber Tommy was kind enough to send me some pictures from the latest Armalite scope he recently picked up.

You can see it is is an early inverted post scope marked with the serial number 670221.

 

Tommy Armalite Scope-1

Tommy Armalite Scope-2

He also showed us the scope mount that was on his early Costa Mesa when he got it from his dad. It is unmarked just like the one I own. I don’t believe these had serials or any other markings.

Tommy Armalite Scope Mount

 

I also must apologize to subscriber Jeff as he sent me some pictures some time back and I never posted them.

He has a Costa Mesa gun with a very interesting feature, a bolt hold open that you can actuate from the outside of the gun with the magazine still in the gun.

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It is unclear if this was done at the factory or after the fact by a gunsmith. It is a very professional job nonetheless.

If these guns were not so collectable I think it would be a very cool modification to perform as the only way to activate the bolt hold open is to reach in through the magazine well.

Here are a centerfold shot of Jeff’s Costa Mesa.

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Thanks to Tommy and Jeff for their pictures and please contact me if you have any you would like to contribute.

 

AR-180B Shorty Project Pt. III

The next part that had to made were the hand guards. I first mocked them up to find the approximate length then cut them off with my bandsaw. I left them a little long and figured I could trim them if I had to.

I then trimmed a small piece of the front end of the cut off part and fitted them into the hand guard. This will allow me to use the existing end cap.

AR-180S Inside Bottom Handguard AR-180S Inside Top Handguard

Here you can see that I didn’t get things exactly right as there is a small gap at the front of the hand guards. They will work for function testing but I intend to build a set of new end caps that encapsulate the entire hand guard.

AR-180S Left

Here she is ready to head to the range and dial in the gas port size.

Featuring a Stormwerkz mount and Primary Arms Micro Red Dot.

Stormwerkz.com

Primary Arms Micro

I would also like to ask if everyone could help me test out the site by leaving comments so I can see if it is working.