Early & Late Armalite AR180B

I was finally able to gets some pictures of examples of the early and late Armalite AR180B.

The most obvious difference is the barrel and this was the only difference I was aware of.

The early 180B is headspaced by turning the barrel in and using a lock nut to secure it in place.

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The late barrel has a shoulder machined into the barrel and this shoulder is machined until the headspace is correct when the barrel is tightened against the extension.

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What I didn’t expect to see was a difference in the lowers.

The early 180B has an aluminum shell molded into the polymer lower that surrounds the front of the fire control box.

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The late 180B has side walls and a small part in the front.

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I had seen only one early rifle prior to this at GunBlast.com. His review done in 2002 when these guns first entered the market has lots of awesome pics that I was able to compare to my early gun. His was serial 200830, a very early gun. Production started at 200000.

One other difference was noticed on my rifle but I dismissed it as the wrong part installed on my gun. The rear sight aperture spring. Mine looked too narrow and looked like it was from a different gun. Then while writing this very article I noticed  the same leaf spring on the one at GunBlast.

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Not like the ones on my later guns at all.

EDIT to add a picture showing the sight leaf springs.

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Early on the bottom, late on top. Early is bright blue and hangs way over the tabs.

One other thing was noted but will require further investigation. The barrel profile under the front sight base is different. When I get time I will pull the sight bases on my guns and get pics.

Finally the very latest AR180B’s came with threaded barrels and a flash hider. I do not yet have one of these. GunBlast.com did another review in 2009 with one of these late guns. You can check it out for yourself here.

My earliest rifle is serial 201383 and the next oldest is 202916 so we know the change happened between these two.

I would love for for my readers with AR180B rifles to take a look at your guns and let me know what features you have. If I can put serial numbers into a spreadsheet I should be able to lock down a what point this transition was made. Shoot me an email at Rick@AR180S.com so you don’t have to give out your numbers on the internet.

I would like to know if you have early or late features of each of the features noted in this article.

Early or Late Barrel

Early or Late Fire Control Box

Early or Late Rear Sight Leaf Spring

Factory Threaded Barrel

 

 

Sterling AR-180 Lower Hand Guard Problems

Reader John R. asked about a finish issue on the lower hand guard of his Sterling AR-180. I had never noticed a problem like that before so at first, I didn’t have an answer for him.

I dug out my Sterlings and had a closer look.

Looks like he might be onto something.

Sterling #1 is a recent acquisition. Serial S17700 and is in like new condition.

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It is most pronounced on the right side where a straight line appears with the finish above the line is compromised.

Next up is my first Sterling S19827.

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It doesn’t show any of these signs.

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But some of you long time readers may recall that when I first got this gun it had a broken lower hand guard that I replaced.

It shows very similar finish issues.

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More Sharpshooter Porn.

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My third Sterling does not seam to have these problems but it has but hit with a light camo paint job which might be covering it up.

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All my other Costa Mesa and Howa guns do not exhibit these issues. I did notice, however, that the Sterling hand guards do not rattle and the others do. I believe that these hand guards must have been built in different places and using different molds.

Does this mean that we can identify Sterling lower hand guards?

 

Take a look at yours and leave me a comment below.